Kate Henry [00:00:00]:

Welcome to Honing In, a podcast for creative thinkers where we’ll hone our skills, explore our passions, and nurture our dream projects into being. Hi, everyone. Welcome back for another episode of Honing In. Today, I’m really excited. I know I always say that, but I’m particularly excited and really feel my heart full to interview my friend, Rebecca. So, Rebecca Maillet, she/they, is a queer working-class first-generation farmer, floral designer, and a seeker of poetry in its myriad forms. She is the founder and creative director of Many Grace’s Farm and Design based in Hadley, Massachusetts, which did my florals for my wedding. And I will share photos of that in the show notes.

 

Kate Henry [00:00:59]:

And she’s also the co-owner of Sub Rosa, a botanical lounge and flower shop located in North Hampton, Massachusetts. Rebecca lives in Western Massachusetts on the unceded land of the Nipmuc and Pocomtuc people with her beloved partner and their dog Goose. Thanks for being here, Rebecca. I was just telling you before we recorded that your name was at the top of my list when I was brainstorming folks for the podcast. So, thanks for making time.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:01:27]:

Oh, it’s my pleasure. It’s, like, very much an honor to be in conversation with you today. So, thanks for having me.

 

Kate Henry [00:01:35]:

Of course. You’re a perfect fit. So, when we dive into the podcast, I like to ask folks about how they think about creative projects. And this whole podcast is thinking about like where creativity and productivity sort of influence one another. And I’m curious for you. You’ve done so many different creative things in your life. I could list all of them out. You’ll list some of them today for us.

 

Kate Henry [00:02:00]:

And I’d love to hear what your experience is with the concept of something being a creative project. Does the framework of a project work for you? If so, how? If not, like, are there different ways you approach the, you know, creative projects that you are developing or nourishing?

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:02:21]:

I love this question because it comes it comes at the work that I do in a different way. I tend so I’ll, like, take a sort of, like, a zoom back picture first before I dive into the minutia of the question. I think in, you know, in my bio, when I talk about secret poetry and myriad forms, for me, everything that I do, I think, revolves around this sort of questing after the poetry. And for me, I use the in all of my years of grad school and thinking about poetry and writing poetry, the best, most distilled definition of poetry that I’ve ever found that is most resonant for me comes from the Celtic philosopher John O’Donoghue. He talks about how and this is not word for word, but it’s how I remember his definition. Poetry tries to draw alongside the mysteries of the world and somehow bring them into present. And for me, all creative projects sort of start at this epicenter of, like, questing after poetry. So, I came to flowers because for me, they are the poetry of the earth.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:03:53]:

They are they are this, like, beautiful expression of possibility and beauty and joy. So, let me try to get back to, like, your original question, which is how do you think about the creative projects in your life? I guess this sort of, like, yearning for more poetry is my, like, animating principle. It’s like what it’s what drives me. And so, then in thinking about the different project, that that brings us into, like, more framework, more logic. Whereas, like, this sort of poetry world is, I guess, sort of, like, my third I tried to break it down and thinking about your questions into, like, three categories. So, like, there’s the first category, which is, like, very discrete projects. So, for example, when we have client-based event. To me, that’s like, you know, you work for many months in executing an event.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:05:00]:

You help vision with the client what they would like, for example, their wedding flowers to look like or how they want their guests to feel at their event. We talk through all of these elements, and then we work for all these months. And then one day, and then it’s then you do it, and you manifest it, and you bring it to life, and then it’s over. And then you archive it, and so then you move on. And, of course, there’s, like, a certain amount of half-life to a project like that where you certainly learn from the things that you do in a one-day event, and you apply them to the next. But it is much more contained, and in that way, it’s, like, refreshing to have a project within my world that I can think of as, like, okay. I’m gonna work, and then I’m gonna do it, and then it’s over. Whereas this the other type of project in my world is, like, the project of farming, which is, like, the biggest beast of the projects.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:06:00]:

It my gosh. It’s like it’s the epicenter sort of everything that we do and the most challenging it requires the most in terms of thinking, in terms of just human labor, planning. There’s so many components involved. You and so the half-life of the farming project really is just, like, always emanating. We get one year every season. We get we have, like, a certain amount of months every year to farm and to grow these flowers, and then it’s over, and then you have to start over again. And there’s the sort of, like, the factor that is always the most difficult and also the most exciting to work with is the element of nature. I always say, you know, as farmers, we’re at the whims and mercies of this of the name of nature that surrounds us.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:07:04]:

And so, I think, like, as a creative project, the project of farming is, I think, in a lot of ways, one of the most dynamic things I’ve ever done because you’re not in control. You know? It’s like you can do as much as you can to set yourself up for success, and then mother nature will have a different reality that you’ll have to deal with. And so, the fact that farming requires such, like, grace and nimbleness is something that is really inspiring to me. Like, I can’t ever count on something going exactly the way that I planned.

 

Kate Henry [00:07:54]:

Oh, that’s lovely. Thank you for describing all of that for me. I wanna ask you about how you how you started Many Graces, but another question is floating into my mind right now, which is, like, I’m someone who loves to, like, plan things ahead to be, like, quarter three’s goals are x, and I can start planning for it now. And, like, I think I imagine, like, yes, you said, you’re like, well, we’re at the winds of nature. But also, like, I can’t help but think about, like, seasons or, like, oh, is like, what would I just assume as someone who is not a gardener or grower, like, oh, there’s, like, a fallow season, the winter. What do you do then? Like, do you like, while things may shift and you may need to adapt and be nimble as you as you work, like, how do you approach the work that you do growing flowers, like, in terms of, like, are certain things happening each season? Or, like, are there things that you do plan out ahead of time? Sure, there are. You know? But I’m just curious to hear more about, like, how, like, season changes and, like, the temporal experience of that.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:09:01]:

Yeah. I mean, certainly, there’s inherent seasonality to what we do, especially here in the Northeast as folks working with the land. And the concept of, like, oh, farmers have, you know, three months of time off. I’m doing air quotes right now. It is an incorrect assumption. So, our winter season, because we were able to get grant from the USDA, you know, different organizations, we were able to put up some greenhouses. And so, because we have the season extension, we’re we start planting for spring in December, January, and February. The, you know, the input the labor input, you know, on the ground is certainly less, but we’re managing crops basically year-round.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:09:57]:

And the winter months from, like, December through February are very much, like, super involved in planning for the year ahead. The amount of spreadsheets that we have is inconceivable. The elaborate formulas that we have to create to figure out how many seeds to buy versus how much we need to plant. It’s like, it’s very, very involved in, like, this in the in this technical way. And truth be told, if that is not my strong suit, I feel like farming has sort of elbowed me into, you know, it requires me to do these Excel sheets. And there is a certain relief that I feel when I log in, and I can see, okay. This is my plan. This is what we’re doing.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:10:51]:

And it’s not something that comes naturally to me. What comes naturally to me is, like, the dreaming into possibilities process. I tend to, like, see a big a big picture goal or dream, and I that that for me is the is the most exciting process. So, like, what do we wanna do differently on the farm this year? What do we wanna do differently in the studio? What do I wanna do personally differently as facilitator of a team and as my own creative self? Like, do I wanna do something that’s doesn’t involve farming or growing flowers? Like, what other poetry is out there for me to sort of grasp on to? Yeah. The winter farming time is very much planning time. And we have the luxury of, like, sitting down inside and, like, talking through all the things that didn’t work well the year before, all the things that did, what do we wanna do differently. And the question that we’re always asking is what how can we you know, myself, my partner, and our team, they’ve been with us for many years now. We’re all getting older.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:12:16]:

And so, we keep asking ourselves, like, this collective question, like, how can we make this work that we love to do sustainable both in body spirit and also financially sustainable. You know, farming is not it’s not an easy thing to hone in in that particular way. So

 

Kate Henry [00:12:39]:

I really appreciate you sharing that. And, like, I remember, like, when you very first started, like, working with flowers and growing flowers, like, I don’t know, a decade ago. Like, I’m not actually sure how long it

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:12:51]:

It was. Yeah. It was ten years ago.

 

Kate Henry [00:12:53]:

Yeah. So, like, I’m curious, like, we were both in grad school then, and you had previously done grad school in writing. You know? So, like, could you tell us a bit about that shift of, like, your decision to be like, no. I wanna pursue this as a career. You know, like, your decision to, like, shift. And, like, maybe I’m not I don’t remember what your if you initially were like, I’m gonna be a professor forever. You know? Like, what your path was that you wanted, and then, like, how you shifted this, and, like, what that process was like, like, developing this new skill set, and, like, how much you needed to learn or already knew, and, like, your decision-making process then.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:13:33]:

I was the first person in my family to go to college. I know that you and I have talked about that before outside of this interview. And for me, this concept of being able to, like, go to school for something that you were interested in, that you loved, that brought you joy, I didn’t necessarily, like, have that, like, historical model in in my world. And so, I finished undergrad, I was bartending, and I was able to obtain this writing mentor who really encouraged me to try to try to go to grad school. Is this something you can do? And I was like, what? You could do this? And I remember going on a walk with my mom, and she was asking me, like, well, what do you what do you wanna do? And I just said, well, I sorta, like, wanna, like, think and talk to people and read. And so, grad school seemed like the perfect the perfect answer to those desires. So, I started grad school in California and got a master’s in English. And then when you and I met, I was in the PhD program at UMass for English Lit, and I loved teaching.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:14:50]:

I loved being with people. I loved talking about books. And I’m sure that you feel this too in some ways. Like, talking about books and writing is just such a beautiful way to, like, state different behaviors and, you know, develop empathy and all these things that are so applicable in the outside world. So, I loved it. And then I really could vision myself in that in that world moving forward. And then the reality of the fraught job market, I didn’t want to juggle financially. And so, then I was like, well, this is this is maybe and I always sort of, like, believe that everything would be okay.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:15:39]:

Like, I tried to diversify my skill set at school. I was teaching writing, blah blah blah, develop different programming for first generation grad students. And then in the I guess it was the year that I was taking my comprehensive exams. My best friend Ruth moved in with me, and she had stage four cancer. And, you know, the program was very supportive. They even gave me an extra semester of funding to account for the fact that I wasn’t really able to be present at school because I was helping take care of Ruth during her illness. And, obviously, this experience, like, forever changed my life. It was so such a I know it sounds funny to say, but, like, it was such a beautiful time in the way that we loved each other, and our community showed up for us.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:16:38]:

And we were devoted to, like, living life to the fullest. We didn’t know how much time she had left on this plane. And so, we just we did so many things. We hosted book clubs on our front porch. We went to Montreal. I took her up in a hot air balloon ride. We threw this huge surprise birthday for her, which ended up being her last birthday. Folks flew in from all over the country.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:17:08]:

It was, like, so special. And there was also lots of quiet time too, you know? And one of the rituals that we developed during this time was cutting flowers from our back garden at our apartment and just bringing them to each other and gifting them on each other’s bedside tables. And this we never even spoke about the ritual. It just start it just developed, and it was consistent. Every week, we would one of us would go into each other’s rooms, and we would have little, little bouquets for each other on the on the tables there. When she passed away in February of twenty fifteen, some of the most striking memories I have from that week was all of the flowers in our house, the fragrance of the hyacinths in her room. When she passed, we I opened our apartment for the day, and people were just placing flowers all over her body. It was like we were holding vigil for her spirit to move.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:18:19]:

And that that this time with the flowers and with roofs, like, forever shifted my life. After she passed, I didn’t even realize it at the time, but I was gravitating to flowers. I sought out a farm a farmer in Hadley who had a piece of land, and I said, hey. Can I, like, help grow flowers here? You don’t even have to pay me. And I didn’t realize it at the time, but I was I was staying close to her memory and our ritual by doing that. And that, basically, in hindsight, what I was doing in those years was, like, incubating this bigger project of many graces even though I didn’t know I was doing that at the time. The more I time I spent outside with the flowers tending to them, the less I was thinking about my dissertation. And, luckily, my dissertation adviser was incredibly supportive.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:19:23]:

I feel like I have immense forever gratitude to Suzanne Daley, I’ll name her, for supporting me through this huge transition and supporting me with her whole heart. Like, I never felt any shame, which I feel like is very uncommon in academia. And she just said, if this is what if this is what you’re drawn to, like, you should go do that. And, like, if you ever wanna come back and finish your last few chapters, like, I will work with you. And just her blessing a lot gave me the courage and strength to say, okay. Well, I’m gonna, like, jump full force into many graces, and that was in 2018. So that’s the story, the story of Ruth and the flowers and taking the brave step to just jump in. You know?

 

Kate Henry [00:20:24]:

Thank you for sharing that all. I’ve heard you tell these stories before, but it’s really beautiful to hear you tell them now. Also, Suzanne is a real one. I, similarly, when I was in grad school, was really, really fortunate. Like, I knew I wasn’t going to stay in academia, and my dissertation adviser was like, hell yeah. Do you want me to tell everyone that you’re leaving? Like, she was super supportive of it from the beginning, and, like, it I which I think is unusual, unfortunately. And I saw I felt really supported in my transitioning out of academia. So, wow.

 

Kate Henry [00:21:01]:

Lovely. So, I’m I wanna shift and talk a bit about Sub Rosa, which I haven’t been to yet just because I’m I don’t live in Northampton anymore, even though I want to we want to move back there. And but I am so in love with it based on what I’ve seen online or, like, when I’ve driven through town and just, like, driven to the dog park and see that there. And how did this develop? It seems like such a natural next step. It makes so much sense that that this is something that you would co develop. And I’m curious, like, did yeah. Just I could ask so many more specific questions, but I’ll just leave it open there. Like, how did this develop? Like, what prompted it to happen when it did? Like, how is it going? And then maybe we’ll have some follow-up questions about it as well.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:21:50]:

Yeah. So, Sub Rosa developed with my partner, Kel. They are my partner in all things, life and business. And it developed because Kel is an incredibly, like, wildly talented person who was a, well, a fine furniture maker in Philadelphia for over a decade before they moved to Western Mass. And then when they moved to Western Mass, they had what I refer to as their fancy job era before they joined me running these businesses. They were working in Manhattan on very, like, beautiful, like, incredible interiors for wealthy people and, you know, building out entire rooms, installing custom pieces. I mean, it was like truly remarkable the work that they were doing. So, I share that because the event side of many graces that we’ve sort of emerged into is we do a lot of, like, very complicated multi day high end events now, and we can do that because of Kel’s skills in building.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:23:08]:

They cost they fabricate all of our custom armatures. They are they are my person who reminds me that gravity exists because I tend to think like, oh, I can do all these things. And Kel’s like, well, actually, like, we need, you know, a screw here or whatever it might be. Yeah. It’s not it’s not my language. So, when Kel decided to join me in running Many Graces, we were able the Many Graces events side of the business was able to really move into this, like, more high end, more involved installation work because of Kel’s skills. And Kel and I really loved doing that. The thing the thing that we, we talk about a lot is that we really find so much joy giving people experiences of beauty and experiences through these, like, beautiful interior spaces.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:24:06]:

And so doing all that events work, we started thinking, well, you know, we travel a lot, which is fun for events. And sometimes it would be nice, like, what would it look like if we didn’t have to travel so much if we could, like, bring this beautiful experience to our own community? And so, the universe presented some options to us, and I say that and it sounds sort of, like, hokey or little woo or whatever. But I really do believe in, like, creating enough space in your life to be awake to the intuitive. And so, we found the space in Downtown North Hampton that had two spaces, two units next to each other. Many graces needed a dedicated work studio, and then they had this other space next door that was empty. And so, we looked at each other. We didn’t even have a business plan, but we were like, let’s just dive in. I think this is gonna be, like, the this sort of community space.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:25:11]:

Let’s just figure it out. And so that’s what we did. It basically took Kell design and built out Sub Rosa space for like, we rented it, and then we were able to open it, like, a year and a half later, I believe. And it’s such a beautiful partnership because it’s Kel’s incredible expertise and skill in, like, the designing and the aesthetic of the interior. And then I get to bring the flowers in and, you know, working class person, I have a lot of restaurant experience, so I also do the menus. And it’s been really so much fun to be able to create a beautiful space for our community and have it be a sustained offering instead of those, like, one day events that I spoke about earlier. We get to be open every week now for people, and Kel built me this incredible, like, interior illuminated alcove that I get to create, like, a new floral installation every week. It’s been such a generative creative space for me personally, and it’s been a huge learning process, but I think we’re having fun generally with it.

 

Kate Henry [00:26:28]:

I can’t wait to visit. And I know something that you’ve done too is, like, having, like, art and poetry and performance are so important to Sabrosa as well. Like, having art installations and having readings and performances. Like, did you know that that was something you would want to have in the space as well when you were envisioning it and building it out? Like, I’d love to hear a bit more about that aspect of it too.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:26:54]:

Yeah. So, the thing that we knew from the beginning was that we wanted we were building queer bar. And I think, like, once you visit or I think we have photos on the website too that the this people don’t people don’t often come into the space and be like, oh, this is like a queer bar, you know, because there’s floor to ceiling windows. There’s lots of natural light. It’s very beautiful. And I think that, you know, historically, queer bars were hidden away in basements for safety reasons. Right? And so, we knew from the beginning that it was incredibly important to us to make sure that folks knew that this is a queer space and that all are welcome, and we’re creating safety for our community here. You know? So, if you can’t get on board, then this is probably not the space for you.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:27:48]:

So that is something that we knew right away. And then after that, I feel like we also knew that we wanted to uplift voices that aren’t necessarily celebrated or heard as loudly in our community or our society. So, things like the poetry readings, the music events, the art events. We want we want Sabrosa to be able to be a space that it can help uplift and, like, share voices that we are interested in helping to promote. So, I feel like that has certainly evolved since we opened, but I certainly think it was part of the interest that we had for the space since the beginning. Certainly, yeah, certainly something that was always in Kel’s mind for sure.

 

Kate Henry [00:28:38]:

That’s lovely. I remember when I had my when my poetry book was published, like, I don’t know, whatever, 12 ago or so, and, like, trying to find a gallery space to have, like, the release reading. And I’m like, oh, I would have a % been like, let’s go to San Rosa had that been around. Like, how dreamy. This is making me think too, like, about like, I imagine you are just incredibly busy with running multiple businesses and work and travel and events and things like that. And I wonder too around, like, do you feel like in seeking poetry in life and creativity, like, you mentioned, like, developing beautiful floral arrangements at Sub Rosa, something that’s, like, playful and nourishing for you. Like, what other creative or ways of finding poetry, like, are in your life right now? Like, what can fit around your busy work schedule? Or do you feel like you’re like, how lucky am I that I can, like, also explore this creative nourishing work through my job? You know, I’m curious about how, like, work or not work, like, what your experiences with that with, like, creativity or other nourishing hobbies.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:29:51]:

Yeah. That’s an excellent question. And I think it also relates to, like, what are you honing in on question. They’re very related for me. The thing about the work that I do is that I don’t readily have the luxury of quiet. And I actually learned something about myself in the last year. I’m 41, so I just learned it, which I think is sort of hilarious. I’m an introvert.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:30:18]:

As much as I like being with people, I restore through silence and quiet. And with that knowledge, the nourishing things that I am trying to hone in on for the next year are, like, finding pockets of time in the week where I can just not talk to anyone, go on a walk, muse, you know, do the do the musing work. Yeah. And I think a lot about Ursula Le Guin’s quote when she says all makers must leave room for the spirit. I think she said something like that. And that feels, like, very true for me and something that is not, like, always readily accessible in my daily work life. I find that I get the best ideas. I’m the most inspired coming off of times where I’ve been able to just sort of, like, be quiet for a little bit of time.

 

Kate Henry [00:31:23]:

Are you able to tap into that quietness at all at work, or do you feel like at work, you’re like, I am an ex like, I’m like, you could be an introvert who, like, can be, like, really good at being an extrovert when needed. Right? Which is great for you and the work that you do. Right? And, like, meeting new people and make I’m sure you’re, like, supporting people in really special times. You know? Like, that makes total sense. So do you feel like at like, this is the question I like to end on is, like, what you’re honing in on it. So, it sounds like you’re honing in on trying to discover those pockets of silence, you know, or, like, spaces of introspection. You know? Like, is that so is that something that you feel like is, like, a like a home or like a workday? Like, where do you think you might be able to find that?

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:32:09]:

One of the big places that I experienced that is when I’m on the farm and just, like, not having to direct anyone. I love being at the farm. I love the land. It’s gonna make me get choked up, I think. I just love it so much.

 

Kate Henry [00:32:35]:

Oh, I can see how much you love it. I can feel that through you. It’s so beautiful.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:32:41]:

Yeah. It’s just it’s such a gift. It’s a real gift to be able to be present with this force that is so beyond the human experience. You know? I wasn’t raised with any religion, and I don’t ascribe to any religion except for the many gods of the earth. Like yeah. So it is, like, a real spiritual I feel like the moments that I can tap into this, like, deep soulful beauty of the farm and what it means for me to be there and really be awake to the sounds, the smells, all the different sensory experiences, that is, like, the ultimate quietude for me. And so, then that also translates to how we can create a farm plan that allows me to have those moments because a lot of the times, you know, we’re, like, hustling hard out there. And so, what does it look like to plan for a farm that allows those pockets? And, certainly, I run the farm from that place, so, like, you could ask any of my staff, like, how many times do we stop and look in awe for twenty minutes at a praying mantis? Like, we do that.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:34:13]:

And for me, that’s, like, so much more important than any bottom line, you know, which some people would be like, well, that’s a that’s a not a smart business move, but it’s, like, bigger than that. I feel like farming for me has to be in touch with the, the mystery and the beauty of the earth before anything else.

 

Kate Henry [00:34:36]:

My gosh. I’m so moved hearing you talk about this. I like as someone who was also raised without any religion and then Kate, like, is very, like, desiring of a spiritual practice. Like, whenever I get super overwhelmed, I do just remember, like, well, nature has been here before all of us, and it’s gonna outlive us. And there’s just something very humbling and soothing about that to, like, very, like, perspective shifting that is really grounded. And I didn’t ask you today about, like, the just the act of, like, running your own business, but, like, hearing you talk about, like, no. Like, we do prioritize, like, being present with beauty at your work. Right? Like, I mean, I think we think a lot.

 

Kate Henry [00:35:18]:

Like, I definitely thought about when I started my own business after grad school. Like, I want my work to align with my values and my access needs and, like, my personal priorities as a person who I want to support. So, I think, like, that makes sense to me that that would be part of the foundation and values of the work that you’re doing because you get to run this business in a way that you would like.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:35:47]:

Yeah. And I do think that when you have a strong sense of purpose and vision, and when you can allow your business or your projects to align with your values, people feel and hear you differently. And I think that that has been true, especially for Sub Rosa. I feel like, admittedly, I am not very good with social media because I think I’m in the dream space more. Kel runs the Sub Rosa social media and really allows the public to, like, understand who we are and our values in a way that I think is really inspiring. So, on a more, like, tangible honing in, I’m gonna try to share our story a little bit more thoughtfully on many graces so that people can start to start to hear what I’m thinking.

 

Kate Henry [00:36:46]:

Oh, you can direct them to this episode, and they’ll just think, listen and hear that. Well, I feel like this feels like a natural, beautiful space to close-up for the day. I’d love for you to, you know, like, of course, we’ll link to websites for your businesses and the show notes to this. But is there anything else that you would want to let folks know about anything that’s coming up or anything that that they wanna stay in touch or, like, hear what’s going on at Many Graces or Sub Rosa?

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:37:15]:

You know, we have newsletters. So, signing up for the newsletter, Sub Rosa, and Many Graces. You we’re they’re just linked on our website, bottom of the website. And I think, you know, following along on Instagram, I’m trying to think of, like, things that are upcoming. We’re gonna develop a calendar of events for Sabrosa moving into spring summer so folks can keep their eye out for that. And Many Grace’s is gonna have flowers in, like, a few weeks. So, if people wanna join a flower CSA or come stop by the Many Graces studio, we’re open a couple days a week. You know? There’s, like, different ways to be in community with the two different entities.

 

Kate Henry [00:38:00]:

Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Rebecca. This has been so what’s the right word? Like, my cup feels really full after talking to you today.

 

Rebecca Maillet [00:38:09]:

Thank you. Same. I feel so grateful for your interest and time. Thank you. Thanks so much. Bye bye.

 

Kate Henry [00:38:19]:

Thanks so much for joining me. You can learn more about Honing In and my work as a productivity coach on my website katehenry.com. Take good care.